Would love to hear more. Schedule II: Drugs with some medically acceptable uses, but with high potential for abuse and/or addiction. By dictionary definition, power is the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events. How is the Bible inspired? He goes so far as to say it's a form of sacrilege to speak of God in language that is "inflated into balloons of abstraction or diffused into the insubstantiality of lacey gossamer." Your worldview is different. 9 Pray along these lines: Our Father in heaven, we honor your holy name. This eventually led to the Reformation led by Martin Luther. I agree The Message and other interpretive commentary, and modernized Scriptures of the Bible, are not best for study. In Matthew 3:7, Jesus speaks to the people and calls them a brood of vipers. Lets all be careful and remember William Tyndale who first translated the bible to English but encountered fierce opposition and was killed(burnt at stake) but his work has a very large impact on the King James Version (the most accepted version of the bible) I just read your comments on the message bible and I agree that it is dangerous for Christians who are not seasoned in the word. We were breathing in polluted unbelief and exhaling disobedience. The Living Bible (TLB): When the Gentiles heard this, they were very glad and rejoiced in Pauls message; and as many as wanted eternal life, believed. Your email address will not be published. In this powerful message, Pastor Doug investigates a very real threat facing the church in the last days: Satan's plan to neutralize the transforming power of the gospel. Eugene Peterson has stayed true to the text and yet made it come alive for today's generation. Cant find your booklet. You should seek understanding through the Holy Spirit, not through the eyes of man. 13 .mw-parser-output span.smallcaps{font-variant:small-caps}.mw-parser-output span.smallcaps-smaller{font-size:85%}God, my shepherd! Especially when our own pastor prayed the Lords prayer in Peterson speak. On the two occasions when I have since heard it used, the speakers havent disclosed the name of the book they are reading from. Not the way man tryed n break it down not like this Regarded as sacred and authoritative, such a complex collection of histories, legends, allegories and images becomes a monstrous Rorschach blot in which you can picture almost . Some simply cut out sections of the Bible altogether or add ideas that were never in the original manuscripts. It is far more difficult to treat with love and kindness someone who disagrees with your faith than it is to denounce and dismiss them (as Paul did). A church that uses the Message, is a church that has let culture invade the Kingdom. I know the author of it got parts of the Bible so right it blows your mind, but there are entire sections where he is dead wrong and injects false doctrine into it. as above, so below. That is where true salvation begins. The most dangerous verses in the Bible will have no bearing on us when we are saved and sure; not placing our faith in the work that we have done, but rather in Christ and His finished work. he leads me beside quiet waters, Its always better to refer to Scripture than to quote any pastor, preacher, biblical scholar, theological professor, etc., no matter where they are in their walk with Christ. The Old Testament teaches that believers are defiled by their attempts at communicating with the dead, a practice that is detestable to God. Read full chapter. Taking away and adding to ie Going to the casino is a sin. Former Pastor: If there is a God, does he even make a difference? Im not afraid The problem of fundamentalism requires that Bible interpretation be undertaken with great care and consensus, which may be difficult when cultural pressures promote the opposite. Youre not going to fond the truth any other way. Simmons has actually released four installments of his new translation: Psalms: Poetry on Fire. Message Bible is completely an offline bible without requiring internet connection to study the scriptures. Taylors bias also leads to omitting text in key passages that do not fit his Arminian worldview, such as his deceptive repackaging of Acts 4:27-28, Acts 13:48, and Romans 8:28-29. He instead uses the 1901 American Standard Version as his foundation. However, he has noticed that some portions of The Message cannot be linked to anything in the Greek text, indicating that additional meaning was added. 12 and forgive us our sins, just as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us. 3) The Message encourages laziness in Biblical interpretation, since it reads like a novel it does not force the reader to slow down and think things through and is a completely inappropriate book to use in the study of the scriptures. Instead of using any of these misleading translations, we would do much better to quote the Word of God faithfully, which is perfect and God-breathed, instead of rewording Gods message to include our biases and personal opinions and beliefs. As a white male . I've even cited The Messagein some of my academic, biblical commentary writing. It depends, largely, on how you read it with what prejudices and with what intellectual background. will not get you closer to GOD. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I began to show up where The Message had taken from, added to, and twisted scriptures in the particular passage that had been recited during the church service also explaining why those changes fitted a New Age and politically correct agenda. God bless. 2. The Message has sold over 10 million copies and has continually ranked among the top five best-selling Bibles. 1. Because Eternity Matters Most. Other translations have just one translator, thereby single-handedly taking on a role that is meant for a diverse team of renowned biblical translators of various denominations. The King James Version 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. And this is why, as Bible Gateway general manager Rachel Barach told Christianity Today, "The Bible has been criticized, challenged, and banned by individuals, groups, and governments through centuries of persecution.". Required fields are marked *. 1. Sometimes we are ignorant because we did not know there was a need to learn something. [] Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. One implies that the one being delivered is actually out there engaging the enemy (the devil), while the other gives more of a picture of holing up away from other people and not bothering to engage. It seems the phrases You are in charge, you can do anything you want, you are ablaze in beauty is meant to replace for thine is the kingdom the power and the glory and the yes yes yes is meant to be a translation for amen. 3 he refreshes my soul. A striving after love, is the ethically more demanding choice (1 Corinthians 13:4), while the other, insisting on the right faith, more likely than not will lead to callousness (Gal 1:6-9). I had to sit through two church services tailored to support the churchs use of The Message. The Message (MSG): Don't you realize that this is not the way to live? He outlined his grace in Leviticus. It's been the case from the beginning that Christians are slandered, and one of the worst slanders is to consider our love dangerous. Amen. Evangelical Christian Publishers Association, "Introduction to the New Testament, from The Message", "2006 Christian Book Awards Winners - Bibles category", Eugene Peterson interview at a U2 fansite, The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts, Jewish Publication Society of America Version, New Jewish Publication Society of America Tanakh, New English Translation of the Septuagint, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Message_(Bible)&oldid=1142387790, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, Robert L. Hubbard Jr., North Park Theological Seminary (chair), Richard E. Averbeck, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Bryan E. Beyer, Columbia International University, Duane A. Garrett, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Donald R. Glenn, Dallas Theological Seminary, Paul R. House, Beeson Divinity School, Samford University, John N. Oswalt, Asbury Theological Seminary, Prescott H. Williams Jr., Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, William W. Klein, Denver Seminary (chair), Moises Silva, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, Rodney A. Whitacre, Trinity School of Ministry. I am not alone. This phrase is used to describe someone who is wicked and deceitful, as snakes are often seen as symbols of evil in the Bible. A man who has strong convictions, who speaks out boldly for God's truth, if he's not careful can become harsh or unkind. Good for you, Simon son of John! answered Jesus. when you walk at my side. Would I use it as my only version? Remember almost the entire word is deceived. It is written in a conversational style with contemporary language, making it easier for readers to relate to on a personal level. When it comes to 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, The Messageis not clear at all, but I don't think it's because Dr. Peterson was trying to water down the two Greek terms used for homosexual practice. We run to God to understand who he is n to lead us n trust in his word But I do prefer to use it to add clarity. First this: God created the Heavens and Earthall you see, all you don't see. There are sections where the message really brings an idea into easy-to-understand language, but for me there is far too much dumbing down and softening of scripture. On the other hand, a man oozing with love and compassion can err by tolerating everything and everyone, thus compromising God's truth. Look for Part 2 of this article, where we will review the top 5 Bible translations to use. Why is the belief of atheism so dangerous for the atheist? The Messages technique in translating the original text is so casual in its approach that NavPress, publisher of The Message, says, It's not meant to replace your current version of choice. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Samaritans and Jews also disagreed over their holy sites. Eugene Peterson might be the William Tyndale of the 21st century or just an individual who wants to distort the bible or some who sincerely want to make the bible easy to read but making some mistakes. I was appalled and immediately went home and read A LOT . He is emphasizing how these same-sex acts are flatly contrary to God's design and also explaining how, historically, the human race was given over to idolatry and sin.). Hoping it will appear in Google listings in time. English Standard Version (ESV): preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. Contemporary English Version (CEV): It is true that anyone who desires to be a church official wants to be something worthwhile. The cost of theological confusion is too great a price to pay to rely on this version of the Bible as a source of truth. Some do know the truth but you will only know that by discovering it yourself. The Message translation additionally suggests that people may reject Jesus teaching because the truth is too close for comfort. [2], According to the Introduction to the New Testament of The Message, its "contemporary idiom keeps the language of the Message (Bible) current and fresh and understandable". hallowed be your name, Excellent observations on The Message. What is more alarming is that the church congregation relies on the over head screen to read the scriptures presented. 26 Comments I reminded the church that Jesus said if we love him, we will obey his commands (John 14:23). To help us keep our feet on the path that leads to life, below are 10 biblical warnings Christ's followers should take more seriously. Like you, I too have had a past of far left and far right exposure politically and spiritually but these days I am where Jesus was Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and unto God what us Gods Follow the Great Commission. 1)It is often presented as being a Bible translation in modern language. I ended up hearing The Message defined as all kinds of things to try to dismiss the problem that it tampered with scripture a practice which the Bible itself condemns. It is a trap that ensnares the poor and the weak and leads them away from the love of Christ. 1:18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Reveal who you are. 1:28-32). 2) When pastors preach from it, it encourages people to use it, this is dangerous because the Message is full of errors, false doctrine, and occult philosophy. English Standard Version (ESV): Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Song of Solomon: Most Amazing . I am thankful that Gods grace is sufficient enough for you, me and Eugene Peterson because God is the only one that knows the heart. Human pride and boasting are utterly foolish and a great danger before this righteous God (2:11-17; 10:33; 13:11; 16:6; 23:9; 28:1-4). Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. This has been a concern for my friend Ken Berding, who has been doing detailed work in the Greek New Testament and several English translations. your will be done, ( Matthew 24:4-5) He is further identified as the son of Amoz (Isaiah 1:1). Gossip often thrives upon secrecy. Even in moderation, alcohol use causes significant problemsphysically, mentally, and spiritually. Perhaps you can give me a link to read it? He introduced himself as a God of grace in Genesis. Taylor also inserts his own ideas into the passage, adding that Jesus will come to you meekly which is certainly not part of the original Greek manuscript. God spoke: "Light!" While some good pastors may use it by mistake, many wolves love its language and use it to manipulate the flocks. King James translated the Bible so that it would be relevant for the time that he lived in, to bring in more people into the faith, and to oppress others, namely the Puritans, who didnt adhere to the practices of Christianity. Schedule I: Drugs with no current medical use with high potential for abuse and/or addiction. How do we know which book - The Bible, the Apocrypha, the Qur'an, the Book of Mormon, etc. One need only look at how the cultural mindset of those who use the Message tends towards a theologically liberal or completely postmodern way of looking at things. Almost all of Christianity is deceived and doesnt know the truth. Some manuscripts add, for yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Schedule III: Drugs with low to moderate potential for abuse and/or . Power . 4) Good News Translation (GNT) - Also known as the Good News Bible (GNB), the GNT was created by the American Bible Society as a translation that would be simple enough for anyone to easily pick up and understand, including individuals learning the English language and children. Doing so would be like saying that the fire used in the sacrifice is also evil. Required fields are marked *. They must be self-controlled, sensible, well-behaved, friendly to strangers, and able to teach. One such critic is biblical scholar and translator, Andrew G. Shead, who said in his article, Burning Scripture with Passion: A Review of The Psalms (The Passion Translation), that Simmons abandons all interest in textual accuracy, playing fast and loose with the original languages, and inserting so much new material into the text that it is at least 50% longer than the original. 41,316 Views. Verse Concepts. I remember feeling like a pariah with no support or friends in that church for some weeks. God has always been a God of grace. Yes. There was no malice in eating and therefore not offensive. He helps me do what honors him the most. The latter error seems to me to be the more common danger in the church. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Jonathan, I definitely agree with your take here. You set out at the beginning of the year to read the Bible every day. Even the most liberal seminary would fail a student who turned in an essay full of Message quotes (at least I hope they would). Thank you for your comments on The Message, although not very well versed in the bible something in my gut told me that it was wrong. I would sit alone on a sofa with no one ready to converse with me. Blog, Bible Message / January 12, 2023 by Karen Correia / Leave a Comment. But nowhere in Scripture is sound thinking discouraged. We love each other, and we're not using or abusing each other.". 4 Even when the way goes through will inherit the kingdom of God. It is a potential danger even for those who avoid its more obvious . Authored by Eugene H. Peterson and published in segments from 1993 to 2002, [2] the MSG falls on the extreme dynamic end of the dynamic and formal equivalence spectrum. I wish you all the best! ", The ESV reads: "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Reach out to [emailprotected] when you have time. The only significant addition Peterson added was changing what the Bible actually said. Jesus Embodied God's Grace. Also Amen means something different in every denomination. We can now live with hope and joy as we strive to do what is right in Gods eyes. ", In TheMessagethis becomes, "Don't you realize that this is not the way to live? Thought-for-thought presents the intended meaning of the author, which the original audience would have understood during the time the writing was originally created. Worship turns out to be the dangerous act of waking up to God and to the purposes of God in the world, and then living lives that actually show it. Gossip always distorts and exaggerates, and is never a reliable source of truth. In Luke 9:61-62, we read of Jesus' conversation with a person who wanted to follow Him, but was denied due to this reason. Those who gossip & slander are not in right fellowship with God (Rom. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. People come to God on their own terms, and if the Message helps them get to him, then its done its job. We can get a glimpse of the strengths and weaknesses of The Messageby looking at how Dr. Peterson treated a number of key verses dealing with homosexual practice. The Message loses the idea of an evil demonic power in these verses. Following is the first 2 of 9 points that demonstrate why Peterson's bible is not a translation or even a paraphrase. The Message is not only a poor paraphrase, but it is, in fact,heretical. Eugene Peterson created The Message, a Bible translation which emphasizes the need to trust God rather than focus on material possessions or appearances. Then there is the line as above, so below, which is from the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus an occult text from the school of Hermeticism, that has influenced every aspect of the new age movement, from Asatru to Satanism to Wicca. It wasnt too long ago that we were stuck in this stagnant life of sin, but thankfully, God has given us a new life through Jesus Christ. That's because by itself, the Bible is not a history book. I always have my NKJV Bible with me and when I saw what was on the screen it did appear correct from what I read in the NKJV. One person stormed up to me and demanded that I send her no more emails. I just recently found your article that was written in 2017 as I was searching for errors in the Message. Cults therefore suppress personal opinion, critical thinking and free exchange of ideas. "The Message offers vibrant language that awakens my heart to the wonders of God's Word again and again. We must reject contemporary culture, not change to fit in. Talking to the Dead in the Bible. English Standard Version (ESV): The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Michael Brown holds a Ph.D. in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures from New York University and has served as a professor at a number of seminaries. I read through your points and paused when I came to your 2nd point bottom of the 2nd paragraph you say that Eugene Peterson did not speak about Gods attributes when saying there is nothing in there speaking about any of Gods attributes at the end to the prayer. If you look up NIV Matt. 2 He makes me lie down in green pastures, He is the author of 25 books and hosts the nationally syndicated, daily talk radio show, the Line of Fire. Rather than allowing the Bible to expand his understanding, Peterson has often contracted the Bible to fit his own ideas, omitting those bits that he cannot fit, and adding his own material in far too many places. Confess to God. Remove unnecessary links, images, and attachments. Share your favorite bible verse with your friends. Set the world right; The minister told the other speakers not to use The Message anymore. 1 Because the Lord is my Shepherd, I have everything I need! You are really understanding mans word, not Gods by using this commentary/paraphrase. He gives me new strength. Jonathan Kotyk
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