Also, the US is rolling out more and more high tech scanners which are much faster. Keyboard warrior.. U must be u spirit employee yo shizzie fly attendant yo. I honestly don't give a flying beep about ending KCM. https://www.afacwa.org/setting_record_straight_kcm_rumors?fbclid=IwAR2Jx6AzwBq_JTj471QFrQZST-hQzQNXJEa26tUuXbfKvLQLc_UNFuWuNzc. Done. The program expedites flight crewmember access to sterile areas of airports, reduces passenger screening line congestion, enhances security, and makes airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation. I will however, proceed to explain that there is a necessity to have minimum crew on board to board passengers which I do realize you do not deal with. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Irons Clothing irons and steamers aren't allowed on cruise ships because they present a fire hazard. The majority of flight attendants and pilots follow the rules. I have an axe every leg i fly and u wanna screen me for a knife lol U cant be this dumb! 0000001146 00000 n Flights can board with/without pilots..however, a flight cannot board without the flight attendants. Crew members may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. Do not go through KCM. The FAA in their infinite wisdom starting requiring flight attendants to have an FAA Airman certificate several years ago. While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year. We do not speed up the security process because it's busy. Just a couple of weeks ago I posed the question of whether the Known Crewmember Program should be reconsidered. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. The neck tattoo guy isn't. Flight attendants have 2 months of training. Thanks to the A-holes that ruined this for all of us. The sticky problem here is that a crew member bringing in a pound of drugs could just as easily be bringing in something that could harm an aircraft. As a flight attendant KCM is a privilege most of us highly respect with air travel at an all time high to be sent thru regular screening will cause delays and many frustrations They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. I thought you were a former twitter employee, not an airline pilot. 50.5% mcdonalds crew members have this skill on their resume. As it is, many of us follow the rules and are constantly being chosen to go to regular security; I have no issue with going through but it has become and everyday event for most honest people. And nothing to do with YOU! TSOs are directed toadvisecrewmembers utilizing the KCM access points of the following procedures that arenotallowed. Also a lot of airports, like Ohare, dont require ground crew to go through security check points. If you have been issued a temporary government issued photo ID and it is your only form of government issued identification, proceed to the passenger screening checkpoint or employee screening location to access the airport sterile area. KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. 1. "Y'all fucked around and found out". We did it Joe! Stay in your uniform you wont have that problem. If Will is a pilot, it only reinforces the often primadonma, elitist egos of many pilots. Get mad at your (and my) own work group. Flight attendants have 2 months of training. Stop worrying about pilots in flight, attendants and worry about every other employee. I've got nothing to hide. That is completely wrong! I have. Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. It didnt always exist. The KCM program was initially developed by ALPA, FOR PILOTS. It is suggested that you print your pass prior to entering the sterile area. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). page on our website to help with some of the misunderstandings in this program. I need to hurry up to get to the plane all while not getting paid for it until that boarding door closes. Let the hate flow through you. after being told you got a random. Make an example of someone make it public and I bet people will reconsider their behavior. Questions or feedback by flight crew should be directed to your respective airline. _W+ As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Items prohibited in checked baggage but permitted in hand baggage. In most instances, the TSA will send the crewmember a Letter of Investigation (LOI) explaining the incident that occurred, identifying the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) which the TSA believes was violated, and requesting a written response. After-all, who you gonna call when the "center does not hold" at 35,000 feet? You have basic first aid. I do agree that some Flight Attendants have ruined it a lot by doing wrong but if they cancel the program and don't provide an alternative you'll see the number of Flight Attendants dropping drastically because none of us would go stand for 3-4 hours in TSA and then at the gate without getting paid. To operate as a CAP Solo Pilot, the member must possess a valid student pilot certificate, or in the case of a pilot transitioning to another aircraft category, at least an FAA Private Pilot certificate in another category and/or class of aircraft, and appropriate solo endorsements from a CAP Instructor Pilot for the make and model aircraft flown. I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. The perpetrator will gain access without a doubt because they're never checked as they walk in. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. However, it is the responsibility of crew to pay these transportation costs. Are you worried that they might find the child porn that you regularly travel with now that you'll be going through security more often? Push through to the front each and every time you clear TSA. TSA properly is strictly for managing terroristic threats. Steve - Did you fly this past year? The continued success of the program is dependent upon crewmembers demonstrating that they can be trusted to comply with all related requirements. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. Thank you Jennifer for the info. My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. They also wear wrinkled dirty uniforms and look about as professional as the Bad News Bears. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. Many of them have very poor attitudes and thats because they deal with people all day long and its not easy. Surely if it truly were that long Donna (Karen) you absolutely would have taken a photo. Central American Airways Flying Services Inc. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. Im so tired of the majority of us being punished because of the few idiots that break the rules or commit crimes. a. The TSO will match the identification to the crewmembers appearance and confirm the crewmembers identity and current employment status via the KCM system. You are barking up the wrong tree and won't win your argument by saying that any part fo society should ignore illegal activity because it might inconvenience you. Flight Attendants in Women's History Month. We are talking CLASS ACTION lawsuits for piss-poor treatment of crew. ORD uses outdated screening methods that are so medieval, I am guessing someone up top is pocketing government funding in lieu of updating their screening methods at this locale. Q. Imagine having to wait in a security up to 3 hours when you already have to show up 1-2 hours beforehand. She was seventy-seven years old. These include cultural goods, wild fauna and flora and products derived from these, vegetables and plant products, weapons and ammunition, medicines, tobacco and alcoholic beverages. Failure to follow the instruction provided by the TSO may result in action by the TSA, which may include a loss of KCM privileges for that crewmember. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. Make sure you generate as many passenger complaints as you can!! What? A. KCM is designed to confirm an airline flight -crew member's identity and current employment status, expedite their access to sterile areas of airports, reduce backlogs, increase throughput at passenger -screening checkpoints, and make If being a part of a society with all of its problems is too much, there is no TSA screening for general aviation. I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. Sometimes there's contraband inside, and the well-meaning flight attendant had no idea. The outdated machines are looking for glycerine - a primary agent in bombs of the past. They should absolutely profile crew members for randoms but right now they are sending crews through regular lines 50% of the time. That only causes issues. The BCAS (Bureau of Civil Aviation Security) have come out with an advisory declaring locally made Power bank as prohibited item not permissible for carriage on person, hand baggage and Check-In baggage, and air cargo consignment. Just give us our own lane already. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. And since you're so hung up on logistics, you should be able to comprehend that people in positions of need will more likely risk activities such as drug smuggling. This is exactly why you dont want the US government telling you how to live your life or whats good for you. I hope KCM is not done away with, but kept with added safeguards to prevent abuse. 99.99% of those passengers have done nothing wrong, and are carrying no contraband nor weapons. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. The fact that some flight attendants may feel differently does not change reality. The vast majority of crew use KCM exactly as they should and are law abiding. Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. Not worried about this, i have not waited more than 5 mins in a TSA or clear line in years, so not concerned at all if there is all of a sudden an influx of crew members in the TSA that just means i have to wait 6 mins instead of 3. The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. NO. We have to submit to a background check to even have KCM.. its a shame a few bad incidents have to ruin this privilege,so tired of the public thinking we are provided with so many nice benefits we arent. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots.
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